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	<title>Comments on: 20 Argument Tactics to Avoid for Effective Communication – Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-51613</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil, if arguments with your boss or spouse are so bad that there&#039;s no way to handle them without being negative or without consistently having to endure negativity, then it might be time to find a new boss or spouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phil, if arguments with your boss or spouse are so bad that there&#8217;s no way to handle them without being negative or without consistently having to endure negativity, then it might be time to find a new boss or spouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-45131</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the bit about getting someone else to say I&#039;m sorry was obviously a joke.

And the idea of walking away to avoid making a bad situation worse has merit in certain situations. But in more important arenas such as business or marriage, it&#039;s simply not an option. There simply is no graceful exit from those two situations in particular. I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve ever told a boss or a spouse &quot;It feels like  we&#039;re not getting anywhere, I think I&#039;m done discussing this&quot; but I wouldn&#039;t recommend trying it. 

Again, I agree that these are all great tips on monitoring our own role in the process. But in situations where the disconnect in logic lays with the other person, they often serve little benefit except to underscore the lack of reason taking place. And if there is no way to repair someone else&#039;s approach, and you find you&#039;re unable to walk away and discharge the matter, that is when your true test of self discipline will take place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the bit about getting someone else to say I&#8217;m sorry was obviously a joke.</p>
<p>And the idea of walking away to avoid making a bad situation worse has merit in certain situations. But in more important arenas such as business or marriage, it&#8217;s simply not an option. There simply is no graceful exit from those two situations in particular. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve ever told a boss or a spouse &#8220;It feels like  we&#8217;re not getting anywhere, I think I&#8217;m done discussing this&#8221; but I wouldn&#8217;t recommend trying it. </p>
<p>Again, I agree that these are all great tips on monitoring our own role in the process. But in situations where the disconnect in logic lays with the other person, they often serve little benefit except to underscore the lack of reason taking place. And if there is no way to repair someone else&#8217;s approach, and you find you&#8217;re unable to walk away and discharge the matter, that is when your true test of self discipline will take place.</p>
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		<title>By: NeaJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-45122</link>
		<dc:creator>NeaJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting others to say, I&#039;m sorry...that&#039;s not possible. They have to want to apologize or agree to disagree.  So, there&#039;s the big conundrum Phil. 

Personally, if the other person has poor communication skills and my best attempts at reasoning aren&#039;t working, I&#039;m prone to walk away before I resort to counterproductive tactics that make a bad situation worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting others to say, I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;that&#8217;s not possible. They have to want to apologize or agree to disagree.  So, there&#8217;s the big conundrum Phil. </p>
<p>Personally, if the other person has poor communication skills and my best attempts at reasoning aren&#8217;t working, I&#8217;m prone to walk away before I resort to counterproductive tactics that make a bad situation worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-44728</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that seems to have been left out of this: arguing requires 2 people. You might be very reasonable, and wish in all sincerity to have a logical discussion, but if the other person is not then these tactics all become moot. 

You might even say &quot;I really want to discuss this, but to do so I think we should agree to handle the discussion in the following way. The problem is that asking that they refrain from using these methods also suggests you are finding fault with their process, often leading to a different argument! And how do you make sure that the argument doesn&#039;t head off in one of these directions without sounding critical of their approach, once again assuming an &quot;I&#039;m right and you&#039;re doing that wrong&quot; posture. 

These are great suggestions to monitor our own roll in the process, but unless BOTH parties are willing to engage reasonably and abide by these standards, it becomes an even more frustrating endeavor. Now you not only have the original source of conflict, but have to either cope silently with the fact that you are taking the high road, or risk starting a secondary issue by suggesting they refrain from certain behavior.

The best chance of resolving any issue begins with two simple words: &quot;I&#039;m sorry.&quot; Now, if anyone can figure out how to force someone to say them, please let me know. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that seems to have been left out of this: arguing requires 2 people. You might be very reasonable, and wish in all sincerity to have a logical discussion, but if the other person is not then these tactics all become moot. </p>
<p>You might even say &#8220;I really want to discuss this, but to do so I think we should agree to handle the discussion in the following way. The problem is that asking that they refrain from using these methods also suggests you are finding fault with their process, often leading to a different argument! And how do you make sure that the argument doesn&#8217;t head off in one of these directions without sounding critical of their approach, once again assuming an &#8220;I&#8217;m right and you&#8217;re doing that wrong&#8221; posture. </p>
<p>These are great suggestions to monitor our own roll in the process, but unless BOTH parties are willing to engage reasonably and abide by these standards, it becomes an even more frustrating endeavor. Now you not only have the original source of conflict, but have to either cope silently with the fact that you are taking the high road, or risk starting a secondary issue by suggesting they refrain from certain behavior.</p>
<p>The best chance of resolving any issue begins with two simple words: &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry.&#8221; Now, if anyone can figure out how to force someone to say them, please let me know. <img src='http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jonelle</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-38462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nea, 

I am very glad that I have read your list, it has made me think more about how I can do my part to communicate in a heathier manner. My question is how does this work if it is not worked on by both parties. The reason I ask is I tried to show this to my husband and the respone was &quot;Well Ok isnt on that list so Im alright&quot;, well no Ok is the same as whatever. If both parties are not willing to work for the same result nothing will help. 

Thank you again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nea, </p>
<p>I am very glad that I have read your list, it has made me think more about how I can do my part to communicate in a heathier manner. My question is how does this work if it is not worked on by both parties. The reason I ask is I tried to show this to my husband and the respone was &#8220;Well Ok isnt on that list so Im alright&#8221;, well no Ok is the same as whatever. If both parties are not willing to work for the same result nothing will help. </p>
<p>Thank you again!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-30452</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear of admitting selfishness, the root of most, nearly all, bad argumental phrases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear of admitting selfishness, the root of most, nearly all, bad argumental phrases.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-30451</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the &#039;I&#039; has to be involved somewhere. The reasons why these arguments come up is because people are scared of admitting how selfish they really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the &#8216;I&#8217; has to be involved somewhere. The reasons why these arguments come up is because people are scared of admitting how selfish they really are.</p>
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		<title>By: NeaJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-30161</link>
		<dc:creator>NeaJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input Mike.I&#039;m glad to hear that you&#039;ve been working on avoiding these phrases. Nobody is perfect but we&#039;re all capable of putting forth some effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input Mike.I&#8217;m glad to hear that you&#8217;ve been working on avoiding these phrases. Nobody is perfect but we&#8217;re all capable of putting forth some effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-29750</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice list, I love it. I have recently encountered someone who has done nearly ALL of these and it has infuriated me to no end. Especially when people agree with them and those people are CLEARLY biased. And I&#039;ve always interpreted &#039;I don&#039;t have time for this&#039; EXACTLY as stated here. 

I know I&#039;m guilty of these, but I try my best to avoid these already.

I wish more people would see the error in these ways of cutting off communication especially when having them pointed out, rather than turn a blind eye and act like you&#039;re the problem for stating you have a problem with how it&#039;s being handled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice list, I love it. I have recently encountered someone who has done nearly ALL of these and it has infuriated me to no end. Especially when people agree with them and those people are CLEARLY biased. And I&#8217;ve always interpreted &#8216;I don&#8217;t have time for this&#8217; EXACTLY as stated here. </p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m guilty of these, but I try my best to avoid these already.</p>
<p>I wish more people would see the error in these ways of cutting off communication especially when having them pointed out, rather than turn a blind eye and act like you&#8217;re the problem for stating you have a problem with how it&#8217;s being handled.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/02/effective-communication/#comment-29512</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>makes em feel so stupid when i think back and see myself using so amny of these once at least !

another phrase which i hate people saying is &quot;That&#039;s how i am.. You knew it..&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makes em feel so stupid when i think back and see myself using so amny of these once at least !</p>
<p>another phrase which i hate people saying is &#8220;That&#8217;s how i am.. You knew it..&#8221;</p>
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